Bid Poker Simulation?

[Aldaniti]

I'd like to play, but I understand if I can't. Obviously I'll only play if you can't find a player for the 10th seat, but not if you can't find a player for the 9th seat, as that would make it even without me. So basically I'm only signing up because a certain someone convinced me to.

[Aitou Kaichi]

And by convincing, he means I appealed to his desire to play poker, and his love for Liar Game, and there was more difficulty in getting me to play in this tournament than there was in getting Aldaniti to play in this game.

[Aldaniti]

There were guns involved.

[Aitou Kaichi]

And by guns, he means that he was practicing poker with some... shady characters. And lost. It goes downhill from there.

[Barbaro]

Here are the rules as we understand them. If anyone sees any evidence to the contrary, please point it out so we can modify them. Once the game starts though, we're not modifying anything even if the manga says contrary.



OBJECTIVE[/u]
To get the highest poker hand.



POKER BASICS[/u]
We are using a standard 52 card deck, no Jokers. Aces are high.

The following is the list of hands you can make in Poker, ranked from highest to lowest:

Royal Straight Flush: 10, J, Q, K, A of the same suit.
Straight Flush: An uninterrupted sequence of five numbers in the same suit.
Four of a Kind: Four of the same number.
Full House: Three of the same number, two of a different matching number.
Flush: Five cards of the same suit.
Straight: An uninterrupted sequence of five numbers, where the suit of each card doesn't matter.
Three-of-a-Kind: Three of the same number.
Two-Pair: Two of the same number, and another two of a different number.
One-Pair: Two of the same number.
High-Card: You have none of the above. You are judged by the highest card in your hand.

If there is a tie for a hand, the highest value in the hand type determines the winner (e.g. Two players have a three-of-a-kind, but one has three 5s and the other has three 6s... the player with the three 6s wins).

If there is a tie for that, the highest card in what remains determines the winner (e.g. two players have two-of-a-kind Aces, but one player has a King while the other has a 2, 3, 4 as their other cards... the player with the King wins).

If there is still a tie, then it is considered a draw.



TOKENS[/u]
You've each been given 300 golden coins. The price of each coin is ¥50,000, for a total of ¥15M. At the end of the game, you are required to return ¥5M to the LGT, making this game a ¥10M bonus game!

You will be using these tokens to bid on lots of cards.



LOT CATALOGUES[/u]
When the game begins, we will provide a Catalogue of "lots" consisting of 5-6 random cards each, labeled A, B, C, D, etc., to be potential hands. All 52 cards will be dealt in this Catalogue.

Bidding will start on a batch of Lots. Once bidding begins for a lot, you will have 24 hours to place your bid on any of the Lots in that batch by PMing your Dealer the number of golden coins you are willing to spend to win it. The player who bid the highest wins by paying their offered amount of golden coins. If there is a tie for highest bid, the player who made their offer first is the winner.

Once the first batch of Lots have been won, bidding will begin for the next batch of Lots, and so on. Once you win an opening lot, you are not allowed to bid on other opening lots.

Please be aware that once you have placed a bid for a lot, you cannot change or cancel it.

If you win multiple lots, you win whichever of the lots you bid highest on.  If you bid the same, the next player who bid the highest on one of the lots gets that lot while you get the other.

If, for whatever reason, there are players who did not get an opening hand at the end of the opening session, any Lots that were not bid on by anyone will be re-auctioned one at a time until all players get an opening hand.



CHANGE[/u]
If you feel there are cards in your hand that are weak, you may trash them. You can only get cards to replace your trash cards through bidding.

There will be 5 Change Sessions. Each Change Session will last 24 hours. PM your Dealer which cards you wish to Change. There is no limit to how many or how few cards you wish to Change. After these 24 hours, the Change Catalogue will be dealt. This Change Catalogue is only available to players who have Changed cards.

Each Lot in the Change Catalogue will be equal to the number of cards trashed by each player, starting from first trash to last trash. All trashed cards and any remaining cards in the Deck are shuffled and fill these Lots. As before, bidding will be open on a batch of lots every 24 hours. The Change Session will be complete once the winner of the last lot is determined, and then the next Change Session will begin.

Unlike the opening hands catalogue, you may bid for and win multiple Lots.



ENDGAME[/u]
After the fifth Change Session, the game ends, and players will be ranked according to the strength of their hands.

If you do not have a hand of at least five cards, you are a Pig (that is, a player with no placement). You are automatically in last place.

If you have a hand of more than five cards, we will take the strongest possible combination in your hand and use that to rank you.

Upon being ranked, this will be the payout:

1st Place: +¥5M per player in last place
2nd Place: +¥2M per player in last place
3rd Place: +¥0.5M (¥500,000) per player in last place
Last Place: -¥7.5M

MISCELLANEOUS[/u]

• Your current hand and coins will be kept updated in your Vault's Inventory thread.
  
• Cards you Change will be put back into the deck immediately and shuffled. Then we'll deal the cards for the Change Catalogue.
  
• No contracts are allowed.
  
• You cannot transfer coins or cards to other players.

INACTIVITY[/u]
If you are deemed inactive, all of your cards are trashed and all of your coins are revoked. You will still be expected to pay the LGT the ¥5M at the end of the game. If you feel for whatever reason you are comfortable with your hand and decide to do nothing for the rest of the game, please let us know so we don't remove you.

[Aitou Kaichi]

To prevent the game going forever, you should probably put the auctions in either batches or all at one time. Let's say that 1 player goes inactive, and then half the players discard cards each round. That's a month of game time.

Also, what happens if there is a tie for first place?

[Barbaro]

Done in batches now.

And if there's a tie for first place, then the first place prize is split between both players. The 3rd place is removed, and the 3rd place prize is also split between the tied first place players.

If there's a tie for first with more than two players, there is no 2nd or 3rd place, and the tied players split the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd prizes.

[Watsuki Shichiro]

Is there a way to lengthen the rounds? This starts over Christmas Eve/Day for me, and I will be inactive for at least that time. And then it might possibly run through New Year's... Could you lengthen the rounds to maybe 48 hours?

Or maybe instead, this could start at the beginning of the year when all the holiday madness is over? I'm sure the holidays are part of the reason why a few players have suddenly become inactive.

Oh, and don't forget that if there are multiple players in last place, they all get -7.5M yen, and the payouts for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, are multiplied by the number of losers (i.e. doubled for 2, tripled for 3, etc.).

[Aitou Kaichi]

Beginning in the new year is probably a good idea.

[Barbaro]

Alright. We'll begin in New Years.

Also, if we're doing batches I suppose we could extend to 48 hours.

And yes, I know about the payout. That's why it says "per player in last place" in the Payout section.

[Sagaro]

Dec 22, 2011 8:11:48 GMT Aitou Kaichi said:

Also, what happens if there is a tie for first place?

Poker being what it is, ties are incredibly rare. But in the event it occurs, what Barbaro said.

[Aitou Kaichi]

You know that if Lero and I left a hole like that and said "It won't come up, so meh.", you guys would set out to make that come up.

[Watsuki Shichiro]

Dec 23, 2011 2:54:43 GMT Aitou Kaichi said:

You know that if Lero and I left a hole like that and said "It won't come up, so meh.", you guys would set out to make that come up.

Something very similar happened this round with the Siege Game:

Dec 6, 2011 14:43:13 GMT Watsuki Shichiro said:

How do captains plan a round ahead if they aren't sure who exactly will be on that ship? With these rules, couldn't a captain give priority to a player who s/he believes should be on his/her boat the next round but isn't actually because something happens at the last minute?

and Barbaro answered with:

Dec 6, 2011 15:52:33 GMT Barbaro said:

They can see who's boarding liferafts toward their Boats, as well as who is leaving their Boat. It is unlikely that a Captain won't know who will be on his/her Boat in the next round.

So of course it had to happen! ...and it did... on the Blue->Green raft in Hour 4...

[Barbaro]

They can see who's boarding liferafts toward their Boats, as well as who is leaving their Boat. It is unlikely that a Captain won't know who will be on his/her Boat in the next round.

So of course it had to happen! ...and it did... on the Blue->Green raft in Hour 4...

When I say unlikely, I don't mean it will never happen. I meant that if it happens, that's the Captain's fault. They need to have the foresight to not make the mistake, and if they do, then too bad, they've wasted a Seating Priority.

A tie is a totally different case. If I had said "Oh, there would never be a tie in Siege Game!" then... yeah.

[Watsuki Shichiro]

The thing is that you never said what would happen until it did, so it was kind of like you were saying that you thought it wouldn't happen, so you didn't need to tell us what would happen. I mean, if I were a captain, I would purposefully have made it happen just so I could see what happened.