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Post by Aitou Kaichi on May 16, 2012 23:40:12 GMT
I tried to push for an alternate use, but there wasn't really a valid argument against it. Can't remember what it was though.
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Post by Kuwabara Kimura on May 16, 2012 23:52:13 GMT
Let’s get on with round 3, shall we? Blood Money was an excellent game, despite of some minor flaws and some mistakes at dealing (which are completely understandable given the complexity of the game for the dealer’s side). It was a highly individual game where alliances could help you, but not win the game for you, as a single player could take all of you down. You were forced to play offense AND defense at the same time. And, on top of it all, information was priceless. Players were thrown in the dark and forced to survive. In such an environment, knowing the location of your hunter could be an overwhelming advantage. If that sounds hard, add the fact that only 2 out of 10 players would win, and you get a fucking slaughterhouse. You had to close your eyes and breath every turn when you saw an update. Will I make it this turn? Will I find my pray this turn? Can I make it until the end? Truly an amazing game.
There was a simple strategy for this game that not many players (if anyone at all besides my alliance) tried: teaming up with your hunter. This gave a temporary immunity to the pray, allowing him to go on a wild rampage. He could double move every turn, waving an axe around and yelling in ancient languages with no risk whatsoever. The downside of it? The hunter was rendered useless. He could only hide from his own hunter and wait for the best. In other words, the hunter and pray splitted up roles: one played offense while the other one played defense. Focusing on one role made things easier for both players and gave the prey the additional advantage of having no fear of dying whatsoever (until his hunter died, at least).
And of course, if you added an extra player to the team (ideally the hunter of the hunter in your team), the rampaging pray would get an extra layer of safety. An extra layer in exchange of another player to split your profit with, of course.
We got lucky: Aitou was my target... which would have been highly entertaining if he still thought I was going to betray him. But it was never the case, so we teamed up again. I acted as his human shield... which actually fitted quite well with by sneaky low profile. And the maniac axe waving of course fitted with his, well, axe waving high profile.
During the first phases in the game, Aitou chased around for a ghost because of a dealer mistake. No problem for him, as he was safe, but I had to spent several turns running around with no profit gained. So, bad thing. We bitched a while and, understandably, got no answer.
As you can imagine, not being killed during the whole game was incredibly hard. If I remember correctly, Kaitani was my first hunter. And he found me at mid-game. Here we faced a choice: either I got killed by him or we got him to join our team. Well, not much of a choice, actually. Kaitani accepted and I was saved. And then Kaitani went inactive and fucking died. Fujimoto killed him, although he was clueless and didn’t know what was he doing. And because Kaitani was inactive, we didn’t hear he was dead until... well, until his killer was in the same room as me. We got that info thanks to Yusuke and I remember doing a smart trick to find out that it was Fujimoto. And again, we were forced to offer my hunter a spot on the team... although this time, with a twist, because we weren’t confident on Fujimoto joining us. After all, we killed him at round 2.. We made up that dealers decided to give Aitou a free pass to the fourth round in retaliation of their mistake, meaning that two other players would win. So, we claimed it was possible for the three of us to make it alive. That was enough for Fujimoto to agree to work with us, because only one thing was left to do: kill Ichii, who was Aitou’s target. So, from Fujimoto’s point of view, we only needed an extra turn for Aitou to hunt him down. The real plan was to kill Ichii while I escaped from Fujimoto and then have a final showdown with him.
BUT we got kinda lucky. I managed to escape from Fujimoto, who did not kill me as agreed and Ichii all of a sudden got active again and actually managed to kill Fujimoto. And then Aitou got to him while I was hiding in a dirty box.
Game over. Aitou got loaded while I got nothing for doing the risky job. I complained because there wasn’t a trophy for winning without killing anyone. Aitou boasted and had sex with his money. Of course, I think he intended to pay Fujimoto and Kaitani back, but never got the chance. And I obviously wanted him to do so, because him being a lot more richer than us was not good.
I'll post the other Blood Money game later. I have to ask some things I don't remember and stuff.
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Post by Watsuki Shichiro on May 17, 2012 0:36:29 GMT
Ah, yes, Blood Money. The game where life caught up with me and I stopped paying large attention to strategy. At this point, I met Satake and teamed up with him. Likewise, I teamed up with Setsuna what with all that substitute alliance stuff and all. I thought two teammates would be enough, and I didn't know who else to trust, as no one else really presented any intention to help me out (aside from Usagi, kind of, but I had heard that she was already allied with Wada who was against Setsuna, and... I wasn't sure how risky I wanted to play that).
So... I don't quite remember what went on in this round. There were alliances with Satake where he was trying to ally with Wada and get information. We found out that he was my hunter and proceeded to keep me away from him. That is, until I somehow ran into someone through doorways (it was either Sada or Usagi, I can't remember right now). They notified Wada who then proceeded to run and kill me. Setsuna had taken a high profile at this point by going and killing people, while Satake tried not to kill anyone, since he was trying to ally with Wada and them all. That... was a pretty bad plan on our part, as it made him fundamentally useless, and neither Setsuna nor I were Satake's target. In other words, we were making it so we had to lose. Again, I don't know what I was doing that round, but I'm sure it was not strategizing. I think I just got lazy then. Or school. Probably school.
So, basically, I killed one player, was killed, had some awesome chats with Sagaro through blood money confessionals, and yeah... speaking of... I should actually have some information in there, so let's check!
Yeah, round 4. Where I died. And Sagaro made 2 different edits to my information, with each getting worse and worse... I went from getting 2 diamonds to one, to noticing Wada sprinting above me, and since I had just killed, I had no chance... So I died.
Oh, and NaNoWriMo was going on then. So another reason for my lack of attention to strategy. Basically, this is where I failed. Me failing, not just being screwed over by something... Yeah, I think that's all.
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Post by Aitou Kaichi on May 17, 2012 0:47:49 GMT
Actually, Kimura was a bit off about my interactions with Fujimoto. Early in the game, I contacted him, but he never replied. Turned out he forgot to hit send. We managed to construct the chain of who was chasing who, because I had access to most of the chain (because I killed most of them like an axe-wielding maniac). Then, we realized that only Fujimoto could be Kimura's pursuer. So, I pm'd him telling him to hold off, we want to kill the remaining, and we'll reimburse and discuss who gets through. I didn't tell him it was Kimura. I also didn't say that I had a free pass. Dunno where that came from. Halfway through, we realized that ichii was in the same room for a prolonged period of time, and I was pretty sure he was inactive, but told Fujimoto to be cautious anyway. So, Fujimoto ran in and got killed. I wasn't sure at this point whether I would betray Kimura for Fujimoto, but it turned out not to matter... So, the round after Ichii killed Fujimoto, I arrived, killed Ichii, and game over. I was gonna pay back Fujimoto and Kaitani, but then the siege game happened, and I had a whole list of problems with the new situation. I'm currently unsure whether I enjoyed Blood Money or Going Postal more. But each were more enjoyable for me because of the circumstances. (Blood Money would ignore the first four rounds if we want it to be the winner there )
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Post by Kuwabara Kimura on May 17, 2012 1:23:45 GMT
I might have got that wrong. Maybe we told that to Kaitani? Eh, dunno. I'm possitive that we used that with one of them.
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Post by Aitou Kaichi on May 17, 2012 1:27:37 GMT
You may have suggested it and I recognized it as unnecessary?
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Post by Wada Mitsuru on May 17, 2012 1:42:54 GMT
Blood money is where Satake lost his confidence. I love myself for that.
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Post by Aitou Kaichi on May 17, 2012 3:07:35 GMT
I will admit I had a hand in that...
I knew that Shichiro had an alliance with Setsuna. And I knew that Shichiro had an alliance with Satake. I did not know that these were two seperate alliances. So, from where I was sitting, there was an alliance of 3 people: Setsuna, Satake and Shichiro. So, when Kimura mentions that Satake is helping out Usagi and Mitsuru to take down Setsuna, I saw problems.
But, of course, I didn't want Usagi/Mitsuru telling Satake that they knew that Satake and Setsuna were working together. So, Kimura, being the creepy stalker that he is, went and tracked down the site that Satake and Setsuna knew each other from. He gave the link to Usagi, who claimed that she found it herself and gave it as a reason for why she betrayed Satake. So, Satake went and declared war. And you all saw the results.
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Post by Kuwabara Kimura on May 17, 2012 3:38:36 GMT
That's completly wrong. For starters, Usagi did not only claim to have found the exact post where Setsuna told Satake to join, she actually found it. I tried and failed. Don't underestimate everyone who's not you or me.
Also shit, you had pretty much nothing to do with what happened at Usagi's group. You telling us "GUYS OMG THESE THREE ARE ALLIED" was like the oldest news ever. Sure, worked as a confirmation but meh. I'll tell the story later.
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Post by Aitou Kaichi on May 17, 2012 4:02:56 GMT
1) At the time, I'm pretty certain you told me that it was you. Sorry for believing your lies. Usagi was the creepy stalker, not Kimura. (Kimura's still a creepy stalker though). Probably a ploy of yours to make me underestimate Usagi... 2) I did not know that you already knew it, and I did remember that I had to request that you not tell them that the info came from me. If you really really want me to dig through my convo history, I will, but that's so long... 3) You did nothing about it until after I told you. Your responses were not the style of "Yes, we are already acting on it", it's the style of "Hmm... Interesting. We shouldn't let them cream us."
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Post by Bara Sora on May 17, 2012 5:13:31 GMT
Ah, yes, Blood Money. Hated how it coincided with NaNoWriMo. So I went all in on noveling
On a more serious note, that stupid mistake was partially my fault, I guess >...> I vaguely remembered that I had seen the URL of the "ornate gold mask" on my browser - it turns out it was the mask the Dealers chose for me because they somehow didn't see the message I had sent them >...> and they put me in the Garden when I chose the Music Room. That aside, they fixed their mistake... after they made the first post in Aitou-san's vault. So Aitou was confused because I ended up being extremely far from him for two or three turns due to the fact that they were using different information from him XD
... I SO would have used that to my advantage if I had known beforehand DX
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